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Common Prayer – Shane Claiborne & Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove on SBE

Erik Guzman December 31st, 2010

Common PrayerAre you sick of feeling disconnected and isolated in your faith? At a loss for how to pray? Ready for something radical in 2011? Then ring in the new year with our favorite ordinary radical, Shane Claiborne, and his communal cohort, Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove, today on Steve Brown Etc.!

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Shane and Jonathan have put together a liturgy for ordinary radicals called Common Prayer. Join us as we talk about what it could mean to you in 2011 and beyond.

Shane Claiborne is the author of The Irresistible Revolution and Jesus for President. He's also one of the founders of The Simple Way, a community in inner-city Philadelphia.

Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove directs the School for Conversion (NewMonasticism.org), and is a sought-after speaker and author of several books. Jonathan and his family live in a new monastic community called The Rutba House. Find out more at JonathanWilsonHartgrove.com.

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6 Responses to “Common Prayer – Shane Claiborne & Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove on SBE”

Obed January 4th, 2011

So, I've got two questions, one for Erik and one For Shane and John.

For Shane and John: I have to ask why y'all decided to compile/write a new liturgy rather than use an existing one. That is, what sets this apart from the myriad of other liturgies out there?

For Erik: What version of the BCP does your parish use? Ours (also ACNA) uses two different liturgies. In our sparsely-attended traditional service, we use the American 1928 Book of Common Prayer. In our two contemporary services, we use a slightly modified version of "Our Modern Services" by the Anglican Church of Kenya. It's definitely BCP-based, but it's it's not REALLY the Book of Common Prayer. Our rector told me to day that they're considering combining our two 8:00 services into one that uses "An Anglican Prayer Book" which is essentially a modern-English version of the 1928 BCP.

At any rate, liturgics is a hobby of mine. Over the last few days I've been experimenting with adapting the 1662 BCP into modern English for a North American setting. I also just ordered my cassock and surplice today, as they're gonna start having me occasionally preach and read/assist-at-the-altar as the next step in the discernment process for orders.

Erik Guzman January 7th, 2011

We use the 1928 BCP. We've modified some of the language. Funny thing though…we still use the word "meet" (as in "…meet and right so to do…") because of the jokes that developed around that word.

After we used the 1928 book for the first time, that word stuck out and we now say of our church, "The Church of Christ the King…where it is meet to meet." Or, when speaking of other churches, "Where's the meet?"

Now in the liturgy there's usually snickering when we get to that part. Must be a strange experience for visitors.

Keep in touch on your 1662 BCP project if that get's going.

Obed January 7th, 2011

Meet to meet! That's great! Good name for the parish, btw. Mine is Christ our King!

I figured for my project's initial run I'll just do Morning Prayer, Evening Prayer, and Holy Communion in both traditional and modern English just to publish (via LuLu or something) and pass around to see what folks think. From there I'll probably start working on the whole thing in only modern English beginning with the Litany and then Collects. For the initial project I've got all three traditional services as well as Modern English Morning and Evening Prayer finished and am about 10% done with Holy Communion for the modern English. I'll send you the .pdf when I'm done.

You going to Anglican 1000 later this month in Dallas?

Erik Guzman January 7th, 2011

I have not so much as heard whether there is an Anglican 1000. What's happening?

Obed January 7th, 2011

Anglican 1000 is the organization that formed to help facilitate Abp. Duncan's call for 1000 church plants over the next few years. Their annual conference/summit is happening at the end of the month at at Christ Church in Plano (a suburb of Dallas). Just found out yesterday that I'll be going. I hear Tim Keller and some other big names should be there. http://anglican1000.org/

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