When Shane Claiborne and George Bush have to stand before God in judgement, assuming Bush makes it all, I'll throw my lot in with those "un-American" Christians who are helping people. I think I know which one God's going to have more kudos for.

This is my first time in the ETC website since the change in format. I guess controversy is the bottom line.

I think I may just listen to the shows. Y'all might kick my teeth in if I don't agree w' ya.

Beat that George.

Plus I've forgiven you when you won't forgive me MikeMcK. That means I might just be more serious about being biblical than you are.

Total sanctification here I come!

Mathew 6:14-15
14 "For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15 But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Love ya bro! I'm praying for you!

It's a good thing to give a bum a sandwich and a cup of coffee on a cold night, but the bottom line is that the next day, he's still going to be a bum who needs a sandwich and a cup of coffee. And the next day…and the next day…and the next day…

If you're "helping" the poor without helping them get out of poverty, then you're not helping them. All you're doing is subsidizing their poverty.

I dont know, I think afterschool programs for kids are a good thing. I think art programs for kids are a good thing. I think that keeping kids off the street from drugs and gangs are a good thing. I think that helping the homeless is a good thing. Do you disagree with that?

It is a liberal who doesn't follow the Bible, which is redundant.

Forgiveness is Biblical. So since you won't forgive me, are you a liberal MikeMcK?

Mathew 6:14-15

14 "For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15 But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Is the good that they do enough to overcome the harm they do in their misguided attempts (allegedly) to do good? No.

It is a liberal who doesn't follow the Bible, which is redundant.

[quote]oh, and when jesus fed the 5000, would you say he was a liberal? i mean, he could have just told them to get off their lazy asses and get a job… and why didn't he tell them about hell? after he fed them, he could have given a nice hellfire and brimstone sermon to a crowd that big…[/quote]

First of all, Jesus preached the Gospel plenty of times so, even if He hadn't preached the Gospel that one, particular time (which I don't believe is true), I think He can be forgiven.

All throughout the Bible, we see evidence of Jesus' conservatism.

Was this miracle done for the purpose of confirming His divinity and ministry? Or was it done for the purpose of supporting those who won't support themselves?

MikeMcK, will you please forgive me?

Mathew 6:14-15

14 "For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15 But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

can you please define what the hell an "unbiblical liberal" is, when there was no "conservative" or "liberal" in jesus' time?

i'm sick of liberals bashing conservatives, conservatives bashing liberals, and everyone bashing ellen degeneres…

oh, and when jesus fed the 5000, would you say he was a liberal? i mean, he could have just told them to get off their lazy asses and get a job… and why didn't he tell them about hell? after he fed them, he could have given a nice hellfire and brimstone sermon to a crowd that big…

As someone who lived in Philadelphia for many years and is familiar with these anti-American idiots, I can't believe that Key Life would support them.

Oh, wait, of course I can.

The same Steve Brown who's always going on about how conservative he is is now supporting Marxists who spit on our veterans?

Good job Steve.

I think I'll give an extra fifty bucks to Young America Foundation and Unmet Needs in their name, instead. That ought to really tick them off.

Funny that they couldn't put the Gospel on their website, but they can mention that they're taking up a collection for AWOL and deserting soldiers.

You are loved. God bless you all.

We just heard about the fire and our mouths are hanging open. What can ou say except that God can take even this and make it into something beautiful. You are in our prayers and we are ready to help; we'll start raising some money today, plus I have a great mission team of builders and contractors. We'll be there when you need us.

DR

You've been am amazing inspiration to so many of us… more than you'll ever know. Please know that you are in our thoughts and prayers.

It was your community that taught me of the "scandalous grace" of Christ… now I pray that it uplifts you in this time of trouble. May God, the Refuge and Everpresent Help, give you strength… now and always.

Your friend from Wisconsin,
Abi

Know that I hold all of you in my heart and prayer at this time of tremendous loss.

Peace,

Vera

Our prayers go out for all of you and your ministry. Thank you all for inspiring and challenging us, including at ccda, esa,etc. and also now.

Shalom,

marthea daling jager