Comments on: The Naked Gospel - Andrew Farley on SBE http://stevebrownetc.com/podcasts/steve-brown-etc/the-naked-gospel-andrew-farley-on-sbe/ This blog needs a description! Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:39:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Matthew Morizio http://stevebrownetc.com/podcasts/steve-brown-etc/the-naked-gospel-andrew-farley-on-sbe/#comment-122491 Matthew Morizio Sat, 19 Dec 2009 21:21:28 +0000 http://stevebrownetc.com/podcasts/steve-brown-etc/the-naked-gospel-andrew-farley-on-sbe/#comment-122491 I found the interview enlightening and confirming. Enlightening as to how we who are "in Christ" fear living like it. And, confirming, as to how we find comfort not in out being "in Christ" but in our being careful enough to dot the "i" and cross the "t". A low-view of 'The Law' = thinking we can keep it by memorizing and applying it. A high-view of 'The Law' = knowing that Christ kept it once-for-all and applies His righteousness to those who believe this to be true. We are called, brethren, to keep a high-view of the Spirit's working the fruit of righteousness in us as we meditate and depend upon the righteousness of God revealed (incarnate) in Christ and then manifest in us according to the Gospel. The demeanor of the responses to Andrew's challenging traditional theological constructs (that deserve a second, critical look) is quite revealing and differed rather substantially to Andrew's own manner (think: gracious and humble). Folks, the apostolic gospel has this effect upon people who take it for all it is worth. Peace to all who are in and thinking in accord with the grace of our Lord. PS I'm sorry to see that folks lost their cool during this interview...in their being out of step with the Spirit. I found the interview enlightening and confirming. Enlightening as to how we who are "in Christ" fear living like it. And, confirming, as to how we find comfort not in out being "in Christ" but in our being careful enough to dot the "i" and cross the "t".

A low-view of 'The Law' = thinking we can keep it by memorizing and applying it.

A high-view of 'The Law' = knowing that Christ kept it once-for-all and applies His righteousness to those who believe this to be true.

We are called, brethren, to keep a high-view of the Spirit's working the fruit of righteousness in us as we meditate and depend upon the righteousness of God revealed (incarnate) in Christ and then manifest in us according to the Gospel.

The demeanor of the responses to Andrew's challenging traditional theological constructs (that deserve a second, critical look) is quite revealing and differed rather substantially to Andrew's own manner (think: gracious and humble). Folks, the apostolic gospel has this effect upon people who take it for all it is worth.

Peace to all who are in and thinking in accord with the grace of our Lord.

PS
I'm sorry to see that folks lost their cool during this interview…in their being out of step with the Spirit.

]]> By: Glenn http://stevebrownetc.com/podcasts/steve-brown-etc/the-naked-gospel-andrew-farley-on-sbe/#comment-121228 Glenn Fri, 11 Dec 2009 02:28:11 +0000 http://stevebrownetc.com/podcasts/steve-brown-etc/the-naked-gospel-andrew-farley-on-sbe/#comment-121228 Just read about a father and daughter who developed a relationship and gave birth to a child. No where in the New Testament is there a law against father-daughter incest. So the church should allow this practice as Andrew says the entire Mosaic Law was done away with!!! Just read about a father and daughter who developed a relationship and gave birth to a child. No where in the New Testament is there a law against father-daughter incest. So the church should allow this practice as Andrew says the entire Mosaic Law was done away with!!!

]]> By: Acushla http://stevebrownetc.com/podcasts/steve-brown-etc/the-naked-gospel-andrew-farley-on-sbe/#comment-117672 Acushla Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:54:54 +0000 http://stevebrownetc.com/podcasts/steve-brown-etc/the-naked-gospel-andrew-farley-on-sbe/#comment-117672 Ever since I was a teenager (I am 74 years old) I have known the Peace of Yeshua. "Oh the peace my Saviour gives, Peace I never knew before. And my way has brighter grown since I've learned to love HIM more and more." Ever since I was a teenager (I am 74 years old) I have known the Peace of Yeshua. "Oh the peace my Saviour gives, Peace I never knew before. And my way has brighter grown since I've learned to love HIM more and more."

]]> By: kenneth davis http://stevebrownetc.com/podcasts/steve-brown-etc/the-naked-gospel-andrew-farley-on-sbe/#comment-115539 kenneth davis Sat, 07 Nov 2009 05:07:13 +0000 http://stevebrownetc.com/podcasts/steve-brown-etc/the-naked-gospel-andrew-farley-on-sbe/#comment-115539 free at last free at last thank God im free at last! oh thank heaven for hebrews 7.11 andrew got it right all of religion[usa] is into the levitical preisthood mood! two things cut on mt sinai 1.asking forgiveness thur shedding blood 2. tithes and offerings also cut on mt sinai! grace vs law give me grace! thanks bro in christ kenneth. free at last free at last thank God im free at last! oh thank heaven for hebrews 7.11 andrew got it right all of religion[usa] is into the levitical
preisthood mood! two things cut on mt sinai 1.asking forgiveness
thur shedding blood 2. tithes and offerings also cut on mt sinai! grace vs law give me grace! thanks bro in christ kenneth.

]]> By: carly http://stevebrownetc.com/podcasts/steve-brown-etc/the-naked-gospel-andrew-farley-on-sbe/#comment-115378 carly Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:01:59 +0000 http://stevebrownetc.com/podcasts/steve-brown-etc/the-naked-gospel-andrew-farley-on-sbe/#comment-115378 If I'm really really good on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday does that mean I can have my free sins on Saturday especially if I read this site 12 times a day? If I read it just one more can I get a bonus 2 more sins free? If I'm really really good on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday does that mean I can have my free sins on Saturday especially if I read this site 12 times a day? If I read it just one more can I get a bonus 2 more sins free?

]]> By: Daniel http://stevebrownetc.com/podcasts/steve-brown-etc/the-naked-gospel-andrew-farley-on-sbe/#comment-114007 Daniel Sat, 31 Oct 2009 03:30:15 +0000 http://stevebrownetc.com/podcasts/steve-brown-etc/the-naked-gospel-andrew-farley-on-sbe/#comment-114007 Are we not a progressive group of people? By people I mean Christians. Why is it we fixate so much on law and forgiveness? Maybe it has to do with the many "Hell" productions casted by so many churches. After all, these amateur productions are quite compelling. If John 3:16 is absolute, then belief is all that matters and should be the focal point of our thoughts. For Christ sake, let us live and live happily believing in our salvation. The discussion of sin was very compelling for the Pharisees, was it not? Who wants to be associated with them? Not I. Are we not a progressive group of people? By people I mean Christians. Why is it we fixate so much on law and forgiveness? Maybe it has to do with the many "Hell" productions casted by so many churches. After all, these amateur productions are quite compelling. If John 3:16 is absolute, then belief is all that matters and should be the focal point of our thoughts. For Christ sake, let us live and live happily believing in our salvation. The discussion of sin was very compelling for the Pharisees, was it not? Who wants to be associated with them? Not I.

]]> By: Doug http://stevebrownetc.com/podcasts/steve-brown-etc/the-naked-gospel-andrew-farley-on-sbe/#comment-113547 Doug Thu, 29 Oct 2009 03:33:21 +0000 http://stevebrownetc.com/podcasts/steve-brown-etc/the-naked-gospel-andrew-farley-on-sbe/#comment-113547 i do agree with the point that we dont have to confess every sin and ask for forgiveness for each one, and shouldn't feel condemnation or prolonged guilt when we sin. But i do believe we should address sin in our prayers and thank Jesus for his grace and forgiveness,not because it is required by the Law but because it helps me feel His love and strengthens my relationship with Him. Also Andrew said in the interview that if we know Christ, the Bible never tells us we should ask for forgiveness of our sins - what about the model prayer that Jesus gave us in Luke 11 ? i do agree with the point that we dont have to confess every sin and ask for forgiveness for each one, and shouldn't feel condemnation or prolonged guilt when we sin. But i do believe we should address sin in our prayers and thank Jesus for his grace and forgiveness,not because it is required by the Law but because it helps me feel His love and strengthens my relationship with Him. Also Andrew said in the interview that if we know Christ, the Bible never tells us we should ask for forgiveness of our sins - what about the model prayer that Jesus gave us in Luke 11 ?

]]> By: Erik http://stevebrownetc.com/podcasts/steve-brown-etc/the-naked-gospel-andrew-farley-on-sbe/#comment-113259 Erik Tue, 27 Oct 2009 00:01:02 +0000 http://stevebrownetc.com/podcasts/steve-brown-etc/the-naked-gospel-andrew-farley-on-sbe/#comment-113259 Hi Mark. Glad you like the show. I think you can be free of guilt and condemnation and still honor what Jesus said about the law. He said that all of the law was summed up in loving God and loving your neighbor. That means that if you want to see what loving God and your neighbor looks like, break that law of love into the component parts that you added up to get there...namely the OT moral law. When you do that, your failures to love need not cause you to run from God in fear. Instead, the recognition of your sin can lead to union with God. Check out what I mean here... http://themerrymonk.com/?p=150 Hi Mark. Glad you like the show.

I think you can be free of guilt and condemnation and still honor what Jesus said about the law.

He said that all of the law was summed up in loving God and loving your neighbor. That means that if you want to see what loving God and your neighbor looks like, break that law of love into the component parts that you added up to get there…namely the OT moral law.

When you do that, your failures to love need not cause you to run from God in fear. Instead, the recognition of your sin can lead to union with God. Check out what I mean here…

http://themerrymonk.com/?p=150

]]> By: Obed http://stevebrownetc.com/podcasts/steve-brown-etc/the-naked-gospel-andrew-farley-on-sbe/#comment-113246 Obed Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:58:13 +0000 http://stevebrownetc.com/podcasts/steve-brown-etc/the-naked-gospel-andrew-farley-on-sbe/#comment-113246 I'm gonna assume that Steve's not a Dispensationalist. I just this weekend took a class where one of the more prominant Dispy's explained some of their systematic theology. While I don't agree with some of Dispensationalism, I think their take on the Law is pretty accurate. E.g. the bible doesn't explicitly make a distinction between ceremonial, civil, and moral laws. There's just The Law. Similarly, the bible doesn't explicitly make a distinction between the 10 Commandments and the other 603 commandments in the Law of Moses. Rather, the Law of Moses has been replaced by the Law of Christ. Now what's that look like? I dunno. But I know that Christian Liberty (aka Freedom, baby!!!!) is a big part of it. I'm gonna assume that Steve's not a Dispensationalist. I just this weekend took a class where one of the more prominant Dispy's explained some of their systematic theology. While I don't agree with some of Dispensationalism, I think their take on the Law is pretty accurate. E.g. the bible doesn't explicitly make a distinction between ceremonial, civil, and moral laws. There's just The Law. Similarly, the bible doesn't explicitly make a distinction between the 10 Commandments and the other 603 commandments in the Law of Moses. Rather, the Law of Moses has been replaced by the Law of Christ. Now what's that look like? I dunno. But I know that Christian Liberty (aka Freedom, baby!!!!) is a big part of it.

]]> By: Mark http://stevebrownetc.com/podcasts/steve-brown-etc/the-naked-gospel-andrew-farley-on-sbe/#comment-113110 Mark Mon, 26 Oct 2009 00:34:23 +0000 http://stevebrownetc.com/podcasts/steve-brown-etc/the-naked-gospel-andrew-farley-on-sbe/#comment-113110 Btw, you guys do an awesome job with the show...would love to hear from Susan Isaacs again...and the Douglas Gresham interviews are really cool. I also love Hugh Ross..there is an author named Guy Consalmagno - God's Mechanics: How Scientists and Engineers Make Sense of Religion that might be interesting...a "vatican astronomer and a 'techie'" ...c'mon...you can't beat that! Btw, you guys do an awesome job with the show…would love to hear from Susan Isaacs again…and the Douglas Gresham interviews are really cool. I also love Hugh Ross..there is an author named Guy Consalmagno - God's Mechanics: How Scientists and Engineers Make Sense of Religion that might be interesting…a "vatican astronomer and a 'techie'" …c'mon…you can't beat that!

]]> By: Mark http://stevebrownetc.com/podcasts/steve-brown-etc/the-naked-gospel-andrew-farley-on-sbe/#comment-113106 Mark Sun, 25 Oct 2009 23:58:31 +0000 http://stevebrownetc.com/podcasts/steve-brown-etc/the-naked-gospel-andrew-farley-on-sbe/#comment-113106 Hmmm...that was interesting...LOL....I have to admit...at this point in my life I really wanted to hear that it was ok for me not to confess all my sins...not to wake up tomorrow and have my self-worth based on performance...not to feel like being angry with God was a dealbreaker...and that my sins that are sometimes very, very, deliberate and well thought out are not signs that I am outside of the work of the cross. I wonder if Andrew's lack of respect for the Law for lack of better terms is just a reflection of Paul's description of our relationship to the law....I find it hard to remove the condemnation of the law if I even look to it for a moment to see how I am doing. I become condemned the instant I realize that when I broke the law...I did it knowingly, willingly and with knowledge that I was doing it. So, I guess my question is...is there a way of sinning that still respects the law and keeps me safe? Or can I live like Andrew and be unconcerned that I am in violation on a constant basis? Hmmm…that was interesting…LOL….I have to admit…at this point in my life I really wanted to hear that it was ok for me not to confess all my sins…not to wake up tomorrow and have my self-worth based on performance…not to feel like being angry with God was a dealbreaker…and that my sins that are sometimes very, very, deliberate and well thought out are not signs that I am outside of the work of the cross. I wonder if Andrew's lack of respect for the Law for lack of better terms is just a reflection of Paul's description of our relationship to the law….I find it hard to remove the condemnation of the law if I even look to it for a moment to see how I am doing. I become condemned the instant I realize that when I broke the law…I did it knowingly, willingly and with knowledge that I was doing it. So, I guess my question is…is there a way of sinning that still respects the law and keeps me safe? Or can I live like Andrew and be unconcerned that I am in violation on a constant basis?

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